Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Should McGill offer J.D./B.C.L. or LL.B./B.C.L.?

I create this discussion topic to see what the members of McGill Law think about out degree name...

My concern is that our degree name, LL.B./BCL, is incorrect, causing significant confusion and inconvenience. Instead, J.D./BCL is a more appropriate one. Here are reasons why:

Unlike LL.B. programs in other continents which is offered to students who just came out of high schools or A-levels, our program requires (most) students to have an undergrad degree upon applying. This would technically take most of us about 7-8 years to get a law degree while taking law students in other continents about 3-4 years only. Note also that McGill law students probably have larger workload than law students in other schools due to the transsystemic system. So our program should be placed in a graduate level, not an undergrad one. Oxford is the only place else that offers a silimar program and it recognizes its B.C.L. as a Master's degree, not a Bachelor one (see http://www.competition-law.ox.ac.uk/postgraduate/bcl.shtml.

Our LL.B. designation obviously causes confusion. It makes employers in other jurisdictions think that we're learning law with 18 year-old high school students. Although there's nothing wrong with taking classes with 18 year-old but employers tend to have a question regarding our employment history e.g. why we have not been employed and why we just start looking for a job when we're almost 30! I got really sick of explaining all this to other lawyers in the firms that I worked with this summer. In the end, I told them that I'm doing a J.D. and they seemed to understand right away why it takes me so long to learn law. It would be very convenient if I have "J.D." on my transcript instead of LL.B. so I don't have to lie.

A significant number of Canadian law schools has abolished their LL.B.designation and opted for J.D. University of Toronto has chaged its LL.B. to J.D. for a long time. Osgoode Hall and UBC have recently provided their 2nd- and 3rd-year students and alumni with a choice of having either LL.B. or J.D. in their diploma. First-year students at UBC, however, will graduate with a J.D. degree. Outside Canada, Australia and Japan are abandoning their undergraduate LL.B. program and instead adopting the J.D. one.

It is time for us to correct our degree designation to a term that is recognized internationally. Don't you agree?

[If some of you don't care, can you explain why you don't? Would the change to J.D. impact you negatively or you remain unaffected? Note that saying that it doesn't matter whether it's a J.D. or LL.B. does not help anyone. If the change to J.D. at least make it convenient to some students who need their degree recognized internationally, the change really does matter.]